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Skratch Lessons: innoFADER Part 1

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Yo, what's up, everybody?
This is, Elliot, special guest.
He is, the guy that developed the
innoFader, right here.
And, yeah, nice to meet you, man.
>> Yeah, nice to meet you too.
>> Cool, cool.
>> Yeah.
>> And, the first question is, how tall
are you?
>> [LAUGH].
>> [LAUGH] I am too tall to be a scratch
>> [LAUGH] He's about as tall as-
>> I'm about 6'3", 6'3" and a half, yeah.
>> 6'3", goddamn.
>> [LAUGH].
>> That shows that I am, like, 4'1" or
>> All right, I'll, I'll stand.
>> [LAUGH].
>> I'll kneel a little bit, okay?
>> All right, so tell us about this
What is so cool about this right now?
>> Okay, well the deal, the thing that's
so, so cool about the innoFader,
is it's a non-contact fader that you can
put in almost any VCA mixer.
Almost any good mixer like even, Rane TTM
all the Vestax PMCs, Ecler, Newos, Ecler
A lot of Stanton mixers, the SA5, the SA3.
>> Oh, wow.
>> So, and some Newmarks, yeah.
>> What does VCA stand for?
>> All right, VCA stands for voltage
controlled an, analog.
So basically what it is.
I hope I got that right, anyways, the
basic idea is this.
Instead of the audio going right through
the fader.
>> Yeah.
>> The audio goes through a circuit that
is controlled by the fader.
So if the fader has got noise on it, you
can filter it out,
like it has got like wiper noise, or
whatever, any digital noise.
>> Oh
>> The mixer itself can,
can make it sound much smoother.
>> Oh, wow.
What is all this right here?
All these, like, different, adjustment
>> Okay, well, the adjustments, what they
are, I don't know if,
can you see this on the video?
>> Let's zoom in there.
>> All right.
>> We'll take a picture of them later.
>> Okay, but basically, the innoFader has
a couple of adjustments.
One is, in the middle, there's a screw
hole, which basically,
you can use to adjust the tension, because
every DJ wants a different tension.
Some want like, they want to like, almost
like completely buttery some want just a
little bit of tension-
>> Oh mm-hm.
>> So they could do
some more mixing with it and scratching.
And the other things we have we have the,
the, the cutting adjustment.
Which is just where, where the sound cuts
Some want it like really tight and some
want one a little more dead spaces and
makes sure they getting the cutouts right.
>> Mm-hm, that's nice.
>> Yeah.
And the other one curved because
the thing we found is that when you put in
some mixers, like it may cut right.
But, but the curve might be off a little
bit, so
you can sharpen a little bit, or, or
soften a little bit.
>> And it's found on the fader itself?
>> It's on the fader itself with all the
adjustments, yeah.
>> Oh that's nice, that's nice.
So right now we have this, what kinda
fader do we have in here right now?
>> Right now, it's actually a Pro X Fade
with a Rane out,
it's like a little of everything, but
yeah, it's a Pro X Fade in here.
>> All right, tell us about the Pro X
The good and bad about it and also, the
Vestax fader what's good and bad about it?
>> Okay.
Basically the, the Vestax fader is called
it's it's a CCP fader.
It's what, it's actually a mix of carbon
and conductive plastic.
Which is basically what they,
they found an optimal mix of, of materials
that would make it last.
Probably like, I mean, if you scratch
heavily maybe six to nine months.
>> Hm.
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
>> So,
it basically extends the life of the fader
quite a bit.
>> Okay.
>> And now the Pro-X Fade, the,
the life of the fader is actually longer.
It's actually maybe, maybe two years.
>> Oh, really?
>> Yeah, it's actually much longer, but
if you want to use that long you gotta
clean it every week or two.
>> Oh, man.
>> If you don't clean every week or two
you get.
>> How do you clean it then?
>> Do you have a tool or something for it.
Actually a tool you have to take it out.
You have to take it apart.
>> Oh, you can't just spray something in
>> No you actually have to take it apart,
you actually have to, you have to actually
wipe off the contact.
>> Uh-huh.
>> There's a contact that
you have to wipe of.
>> And
that's every, when do you have to do that?
>> They recommend every week because.
>> Oh.
>> Yeah.
>> You have to take it
out of.
>> That's what
they recommend.
>> And what about this thing.
How do you clean this thing?
>> Actually,
this fader you won't have to clean for.
I mean, I have, I have guys that,
I have a guy who's used it for a year and
a half who's never cleaned it.
Never touched it.
>> Wow.
>> So.
>> How about spray?
I like to spray this
with control spray.
Do you need
Or don't need that.
>> You probably wouldn't want to use that.
Probably what you want to do actually
DeoxIT in the, in the kit.
>> Oh it comes with it.
>> Yeah you could do is
you could actually add a drop to the rail.
Just if it gets a little sticky.
Because the whole thing,
the whole thing is enclosed.
You're not gonna get a lot of dust.
It's not like, like with a Rane Fit.
It's all open.
>> Yeah.
>> So anytime you go to, you know,
any time you perform with it.
>> Yeah.
>> It's gonna just get all gummed up.
>> Oh, wow.
>> Yeah, so you'll have to clean it off.
But the idea with this is it's all
You really won't have to clean much.
If you really have to, use these holes on
the end.
So you get right like, people say the ends
sometimes stick a little, little bit.
>> Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> You get a drop right on the end, and
work it in, and you're good to go.
>> And that's all?
Now what about, I like to put these like
rubber stoppers in my fader.
>> Oh, okay.
>> Can you put a rubber stopper.
But you know what we did is, I'll, I'll
take it out here.
What we did to the fader is if you, if you
take, if you feel it a bit,
we actually put rubber stoppers inside the
We actually got a little, so you can get
like a little, a little,
kinda like a little softness on it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
>> I feel it moving yeah, it's awesome.
>> Yeah, because you have to get it right,
we actually put softer rubber in there
first but if it's too soft it'll just.
Like when you, when you do this it's going
to like.
>> Bounce better.
>> Go back and
forth like two or three times.
>> Awesome.
>> So you want it just a little bit,
just enough so it, so it's comfortable but
it's not like going to fly off.
>> I hate when that, when like I used to
have that noise and
you'd hear that more than the scratching
so this is kinda cool.
>> Yep, yeah.
I mean actually with this innoFader we
there's a lot of detail that goes in.
It looks, it looks very, it looks pretty
ba, it looks pretty simple, but
everything from the actual rails inside
the fader.
>> Yeah.
>> It's a, it's a special material,
it's a special harder material that when
you feel it like when you go this way.
You can feel it's smooth this way.
Smooth this way.
And smooth this way.
So like when you, when you scratch with
You're not always going like this.
You're sometimes going at an angle here or
>> Yeah, so that's actually important.
>> So, so the idea is.
We're trying to give DJs more control.
Not just get a good replacement.
If you replace your fader you want
something that's better then what's
in there.
It's gotta feel better.
>> What's cool about this guy is he was
scratching earlier.
He knows what's going on.
[LAUGH] So yeah, he knows exactly what
scratch DJs want.
That's cool.
So all right I guess we'll, let's take
this apart and put Darth Vader in.
>> Sure.
>> All right, let's see what we got here.
So, yeah, let's take this guy here.
All right.
Oh, I thought it, oh, it is.
Oh, I thought, no, it's just a little bit.
>> No, that's just the plate.
This is just the plate over here.
>> So we don't need this plate anymore,
>> No.
>> You got one over there?
>> Yeah.
>> Okay.
All right.
>> Well, actually, you probably wanna use
this plate because it's fitted right.
>> I see.
I see, so let's keep this guy, huh?
>> So.
Well yeah.
So you take the fader out here.
You see, they gotta in there.
>> Okay so that polarized phase so we just
take this guy out of here.
>> Mm-hm.
Yeah, take this, un-clip this here.
>> Okay.
Is there any special thing that we gotta
>> Well here's.
There's two things that we wanna do.
And maybe you wanna, you wanna slow down
when you, when you're showing this.
>> Okay.
>> [NOISE] The first thing we wanna do
when you
install the fader is we wanna, we want to,
use, we want to actually test the circuit.
To make sure it's the right polarity.
Because it, the, with the, with this
digital fader, it, it has to be one way,
it can't be reversed.
>> So what we're going to do,
is we're going to first plug in this test
>> Oh wow.
>> They're is
actually a socket you plug it into.
>> Uh-huh.
>> Over here and we power it on.
Up, its red.
So what that means is that the power is
reversed on this.
>> Wow.
>> So, yeah, so
we do, all we have to do is that we have
an adapter for that.
There's actually two, two things to do.
One is to use the adaptor.
>> Okay.
>> All right.
Plug in the adaptor.
And I'll.
>> This is very important right here.
>> Yeah.
And then I'll plug in the test port.
>> Test port.
>> It's actually reversed to, let me see
this here.
Try plugging it in.
>> [SOUND]
>> It's, it's [LAUGH] No, no,
it's good to go, so it's green.
>> Okay, good, it's green, so that means.
>> Make sure nothing's touching here,
that's one of the keys.
>> Oh.
>> Because if anything is touching here,
you might short out something.
>> Okay.
>> So we're, we're, we're good to go with
Now we take out the, the, test board.
>> Mm-hm.
>> All right.
And one thing we want to do I'm just going
to go off camera I gotta get something.
>> All right go ahead.
>> All right.
>> He's gonna get some I'll give you a.
>> All right.
>> What do you call it right now he's a oh
wow he just took off his pants.
>> [LAUGH].
>> Polka dot shorts, black socks,
red knee pads puts his pants back on real
And then he's changing his black socks to
green socks.
And he's back now.
>> All right.
>> All right here we go.
>> All right now one thing we've done
recently to make this a lot easier.
We used to tell DJ's to, to tape up the
whole thing before they put it back.
>> Oh, okay.
>> And now we have here,
we have an insulator kit.
>> Whoa.
>> So and every,
all the innoFaders now are shipping with
the insulator kit.
So basically the idea is this.
You've got this velcro here.
>> Okay.
>> And we're gonna do,
is just gonna peel off the velcro.
We're gonna simply, put it on here.
>> [LAUGH] Okay.
>> It looks complicated, but I mean, this
is the simplest thing to do.
If, when you, when you have this tube, you
just slip it on.
>> Oh, good, good, good.
>> And then you clip it right on, so
I just gonna put velcro on the two
Peel this off.
My hands are a little,
I'm a little nervous now, so I'm not doing
so well with this, but.
You want me.
>> And, and what does this actually do?
It insulates what?
It's insulating this,
>> Mm-hm.
>> From the rest of the-
>> Oh, I see, from all the other stuff
going on.
>> Yeah, yeah.
So here let me just peel this off here.
>> And all of the directions are in, in
>> Well, the thing that we did is because
every, there's two things.
One is that the, the, the mixers that it's
compatible with have changed.
So everything we do is online.
Like all the-
>> Oh, good, good.
>> Because every mixer's gonna have
different instructions.
Like we have a, we have a whole, a whole
demo of the, the Rane TTM installation.
We have another for the Pioneer DJM-800.
>> And what's the website that they can go
>> It's actually right on the box.
I don't know if you can see it here, but
it says right on the box
>> Oh,
>> So, it's, it's right on the bottom.
>> Right, okay cool.
>> So all right.